tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3607123.post115256154741784149..comments2023-11-02T12:15:47.847+00:00Comments on Quinquireme: Degrees of Separationpatroclushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01933476561340044351noreply@blogger.comBlogger33125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3607123.post-1152996075019833512006-07-15T21:41:00.000+01:002006-07-15T21:41:00.000+01:00Well, I've given up, first I got past Li'l Fairy v...Well, I've given up, first I got past Li'l Fairy via Talking Cock (Singaporean movie producers, go figure), butnthey only link to their own stuff. I've been back to next blog several times but I always land up in a Singaporean teenage blog love-in and can't get out. Isn't next blog supposed to be a bit random?.pDavetheFhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04310714240845196050noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3607123.post-1152981431655601972006-07-15T17:37:00.000+01:002006-07-15T17:37:00.000+01:00Well, I've given up, first I got past Li'l Fairy v...Well, I've given up, first I got past Li'l Fairy via Talking Cock (Singaporean movie producers, go figure), butnthey only link to their own stuff. I've been back to next blog several times but I always land up in a Singaporean teenage blog love-in and can't get out. Isn't next blog supposed to be a bit random?DavetheFhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04310714240845196050noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3607123.post-1152733214685123252006-07-12T20:40:00.000+01:002006-07-12T20:40:00.000+01:00Strange: in the real world I will happily wander i...Strange: in the real world I will happily wander into any bar or city that I don't know at all and chat to total strangers (as a child I had a thrill-seeking thing about getting on a train and going to places where I didn't know anyone - I still have a touch of that).<BR/><BR/>But I don't want to go and see other people's blogs *stamps feet*. I don't *know* them. <BR/><BR/>How nonsensical is that?Tabby Rabbithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04287486091942622336noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3607123.post-1152723523455551852006-07-12T17:58:00.000+01:002006-07-12T17:58:00.000+01:00Oh, so many quality comments to respond to, so lit...Oh, so many quality comments to respond to, so little time...back later, although I think I have to go see Ed Harcourt first.patroclushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01933476561340044351noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3607123.post-1152715926736486802006-07-12T15:52:00.000+01:002006-07-12T15:52:00.000+01:00I tried it a little bit. Got confused and lost. We...I tried it a little bit. Got confused and lost. Went home with my tail between my legs.frangelitahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11233841524982204314noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3607123.post-1152709625654443772006-07-12T14:07:00.000+01:002006-07-12T14:07:00.000+01:00I further observe that there are a lot hermeticall...I further observe that there are a lot hermetically sealed bubbles out there that you can get into via the next blog button but you can then never leave. Like a sorority in Michigan. Or some Spaniards from Asturias. Or those Filipinos yesterday.GreatSheElephanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06589100964804729527noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3607123.post-1152708531422038812006-07-12T13:48:00.000+01:002006-07-12T13:48:00.000+01:00Um, this doesn't work at all?Um, this doesn't work at all?Anniehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06793047799910670620noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3607123.post-1152656579429474612006-07-11T23:22:00.000+01:002006-07-11T23:22:00.000+01:00Regarding the maps or rather the lack of them - th...Regarding the maps or rather the lack of them - there have been many pretty pictures of the physical internet. Each packet of information that is sent over the internet goes through nodes belonging to several different companies - finding trouble hot spots or heavily used bottle-necks has a technical and economic public imperative.<BR/><BR/>The social networks that lie on top is slightly different. Writing an internet robot spider that trawls blog rolls and reports the finding to a central master mapping system would be fairly easy to do but the resources to run the necessary servers would be rather expensive. <BR/><BR/>Unless of course you wrote some self-replicating spider bot that adapted to its environment before continuing its long goal - recompiling and configuring itself before it went to the next server like a deep under cover secret agent...<BR/><BR/>But sadly that is technically writing a government threatening virus which can land you in some US prison without trial on a dubious terrorism charge.<BR/><BR/>The only people who have the legal authority and money enough to care are the advertisers, marketers and the people running the new social networks themselves..<BR/><BR/>Detailed information of vast emergent social networks and the vital nodes would be gold dust to any modern company. <BR/><BR/>MySpace and Google have it but are keeping it quiet.<BR/><BR/>MySpace because making the info public would a huge advantage to their competitors and they are happily using it for the marketing goals of the rest of the Murdoch empire. Google, because their users have clearly expressed an overwhelming desire be ad-free and they are still trying to keep their IPO promise of being non-evil.<BR/><BR/>Maybe the adage of the 21st century will be - the price of freedom is eternal ignorance.<BR/><BR/>Anyway it is more fun to travel without a map.hhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12135104700414328832noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3607123.post-1152648529383863652006-07-11T21:08:00.000+01:002006-07-11T21:08:00.000+01:00I just felt really bad because I couldn't do it. A...I just felt really bad because I couldn't do it. And I'm still feeling scarred by all the religious sites I had to go through. And they just were looking at me...pointing....shouting...<BR/>'Atheist!'<BR/>'Get away before we make you wear a celibacy ring!'<BR/>And all sorts of nasty things. And it was a bit like the Crystal Maze where they frantically press on the button of the door and say, 'Let me out' or 'Do it to Julia'<BR/><BR/>But I get lost outside my own front door...so this is perhaps why. Perhaps it has something to do with lateral thinking?<BR/><BR/>Some people are much better at finding their way home than others. Perhaps because I was always escaping home...I maybe had some deep psychological urge NOT to come home and that's why I purposefully get lost. I mean....look at you and Heather...how did you do that? I find that really strange that Heather managed to get back in three steps. THREE! <BR/><BR/>That is impressive.<BR/><BR/>But...is it linked to our psychology? Or is it just luck. Or is it just good lateral thinking? Or alien forces?Molly Bloomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15002045980797531079noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3607123.post-1152647704768575572006-07-11T20:55:00.000+01:002006-07-11T20:55:00.000+01:00Wow, OPC, that *is* spooky. Although I sort of im...Wow, OPC, that *is* spooky. Although I sort of imagine your whole life as having some mythical magical-realist tinge to it. I'm not sure why. I wouldn't have been particularly surprised if you'd said that you'd discovered a winged gryphon while tidying up.patroclushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01933476561340044351noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3607123.post-1152636948948465562006-07-11T17:55:00.000+01:002006-07-11T17:55:00.000+01:00Haven't tried the 6 Degrees blog game yet (althoug...Haven't tried the 6 Degrees blog game yet (although it's only a matter of time), but I have just found an odd link between this post and the last one. During my uncharacteristic tidying fit last night (in the midsts of which I spotted that interview with the director of Hidden) I put aside an interview with Malcom Gladwell to read later. I just picked it up and on the back is the Hidden thing. Spooky.<BR/><BR/>Then again, maybe you also chucked out an old copy of the Observer recently that had been lying around since February. And it's not that spooky at all. <BR/><BR/>Or would that actually be slightly spookier?Occasional Poster of Commentshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07780858079455768452noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3607123.post-1152629769157313892006-07-11T15:56:00.000+01:002006-07-11T15:56:00.000+01:00realdoc: I've occasionally asked other people for ...realdoc: I've occasionally asked other people for permission to link to them, but I don't think anyone really expects it. I certainly don't expect people to ask me, and I'm always very flattered when someone does link to me. <BR/><BR/>Let me know if you decide to start your own - it's fun, but also quite unnerving at times. I worry inordinately about every single post I write. Pure vanity, probably.patroclushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01933476561340044351noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3607123.post-1152626707042196502006-07-11T15:05:00.000+01:002006-07-11T15:05:00.000+01:00As a relative newcomer to reading and posting on b...As a relative newcomer to reading and posting on blogs I still find the whole thing a bit confusing. With blogrolls do you have to get someone's permission to put them on your blog roll or can you just do it? Still pondering whether I have enough to say to start my own.<BR/>On another site my virtual pal kate told me of the concept of cultural wormholes within the cyberspace world so maybe the blogosphere really is enormous but with high speed connections between weird and unconnected places. God it makes my brain hurt to think about it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3607123.post-1152623602685315732006-07-11T14:13:00.000+01:002006-07-11T14:13:00.000+01:00I'd be interested in your opinion on it. There wer...I'd be interested in your opinion on it. There were a couple of excellent moments where I thought - that sentence inspired an entire movie - but mostly I didn't understand it much. <BR/><BR/>Until now! The power of blogging...GreatSheElephanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06589100964804729527noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3607123.post-1152620769948218352006-07-11T13:26:00.000+01:002006-07-11T13:26:00.000+01:00Gasp! Real life 'now actually like Neuromancer' sh...Gasp! Real life 'now actually like <I>Neuromancer</I>' shocker!<BR/><BR/>I've been waiting for this moment for years.<BR/><BR/>Maybe I should actually read Neuromancer now, instead of just pretending I have.patroclushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01933476561340044351noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3607123.post-1152616828138587612006-07-11T12:20:00.000+01:002006-07-11T12:20:00.000+01:00now that's just getting too Neuromancer for wordsnow that's just getting too Neuromancer for wordsGreatSheElephanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06589100964804729527noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3607123.post-1152616018686129202006-07-11T12:06:00.000+01:002006-07-11T12:06:00.000+01:00GSE: That must have been a different conference - ...GSE: That must have been a different conference - I'm sure there are maps of *bits of* the blogosphere, but the whole thing?<BR/><BR/>I tried the experiment again earlier, and got stuck in a huge community of Malaysian teenagers living in Canada (who'd have thought it?). There didn't seem to be any way out of there, but I didn't have time to look properly.<BR/><BR/>Spin: There are supposed to be 47 million blogs in total, so there will be considerably fewer than that number on Blogger - and who knows how many of them are just spam blogs? Or 'splogs', as they are prettily becoming known.<BR/><BR/>GSE (again): Should we send in Search and Rescue?patroclushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01933476561340044351noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3607123.post-1152615101908310412006-07-11T11:51:00.000+01:002006-07-11T11:51:00.000+01:00aarghPhilipino blogs only link to other Philipino ...aargh<BR/>Philipino blogs only link to other Philipino blogs<BR/><BR/>I am determined to get homeGreatSheElephanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06589100964804729527noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3607123.post-1152610479803015842006-07-11T10:34:00.000+01:002006-07-11T10:34:00.000+01:00I ended up on lots of Spanish-language sites. Got ...I ended up on lots of Spanish-language sites. Got distracted by Go Fug Yourself.<BR/><BR/>Anyhow, ages ago, I was clicking 'next blog' at work and I stumbled upon one that I'd read a few times. I was a bit surprised as aren't ther supposed to be about a billion blogs out there??Spinsterellahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08611660308963083276noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3607123.post-1152609327634711662006-07-11T10:15:00.000+01:002006-07-11T10:15:00.000+01:00another 5 clicks of next blog, resulting in 5 blog...another 5 clicks of next blog, resulting in 5 blogs with no blogroll...GreatSheElephanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06589100964804729527noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3607123.post-1152609178194333492006-07-11T10:12:00.000+01:002006-07-11T10:12:00.000+01:00I thought they showed a map at that conference we ...I thought they showed a map at that conference we went to? Or was it a different conference? Anyhow, I don't think it was of the entire blogosphere - I thought the map I saw was about mapping links that related to particular brands.<BR/><BR/>Here are a few thoughts about why it might not be six degrees in the blogosphere.<BR/><BR/>Is there a blog equivalent of the extended family who you never talk to? Six degrees presumably includes relatives in the real world but in the blogosphere, they aren't likely to appear on the blog roll.<BR/><BR/>Are there more or fewer people with no blogrolls than with no friends?<BR/><BR/>And (faintly suspicious here) - most of my attempts have landed me up on non-English language blogs. Has this not happened to anyone else?<BR/><BR/>I've made about five attempts so far and haven't got anywhere, even once.GreatSheElephanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06589100964804729527noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3607123.post-1152604540318342212006-07-11T08:55:00.000+01:002006-07-11T08:55:00.000+01:00This site is quite interesting re: your post.http:...This site is quite interesting re: your post.<BR/><BR/>http://www.cybergeography.org/atlas/atlas.html and I did a further post on my blog too - you were name-checked!rockmotherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08939586655533001122noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3607123.post-1152601749129757762006-07-11T08:09:00.000+01:002006-07-11T08:09:00.000+01:00I agree - I think the blogosphere is smaller than ...I agree - I think the blogosphere is smaller than we think - a bit like the world as we know it. Sorry - I didn't mean to sound like Cpn Spock when I said that. It often happens that I trot off on a tangent only to get back to people I 'know' in the infinite horizon of blogland. There will be an equation somewhere to explain it all. Geekdom. I love it. <BR/><BR/>I never do that 'next blog' button though - a mixture of fear and supposition creeps in that it might be boring and not in my immediate circle of blogs I like and visit regularly. But I'm going to press the next blogger button now and blog about it. Thanks for a really interesting post.rockmotherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08939586655533001122noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3607123.post-1152585693254162192006-07-11T03:41:00.000+01:002006-07-11T03:41:00.000+01:00good lord, folks, it took me too bloody many rando...good lord, folks, it took me too bloody many random clicks just to find my way here. you think im going out there again?*shudders*SSAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15073586333007264371noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3607123.post-1152573247571577202006-07-11T00:14:00.000+01:002006-07-11T00:14:00.000+01:00i been trying to look for it, there was a map done...i been trying to look for it, there was a map done somewhere. will drop you a mail when i found it. it is an interesting phenomenon. maybe i'm just as much a geek.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13453903374418067594noreply@blogger.com